Comments for Linuxcentre http://linuxcentre.net   Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:04:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by linuxcentre http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21119 linuxcentre Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:55:05 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21119 Yes, the thieving implication (see their<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2010/03/round_up_thursday_11_march_201.html" rel="nofollow"> internet blog post today</a>), is really just reinforcing the BBC view of the open source community being a bunch of pirates and freeloaders - quite ironic in this case. If the comment they chose to publish represents their view then this just means that the BBC believes that all VCR/PVR users are thieves - thanks BBC! I'm already missing get_iplayer too... Yes, the thieving implication (see their internet blog post today), is really just reinforcing the BBC view of the open source community being a bunch of pirates and freeloaders - quite ironic in this case. If the comment they chose to publish represents their view then this just means that the BBC believes that all VCR/PVR users are thieves - thanks BBC! I’m already missing get_iplayer too…

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by Prosthetic Head http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21118 Prosthetic Head Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:42:45 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21118 I'm very sad about this turn of events. Thanks so much for the software, it has been of great use to me, allowing me to watch content in a convenient way. I'm sorry the stance BBC has driven you to this action. I am a great admirer of the work of the BBC and feel it is gives good value for my license fee, at least until now. I very much resent the implication of the BBC that I am a thief simply because I use open source software. I do not keep the content past its limit and I do not redistribute it. I simply watch it (which is presumably why they made it available in the first place?). We are now left with their Air / Flash web app (which is preventativly CPU intensive on many systems and relies on the propriatary and badly maintained Adobe flash player. I currently do not own a television, but paid the licence fee since I felt a duty to support the production of content I enjoyed so much. I shall not be renewing my licence if the BBCs attitude towards accessibility and open source continues. To everyone: Let the BBC know what you think, write to them, complete the consultation linked previously, write to your MP, comment on relevant BBC website articles, phone in to your local radio / newspaper, etc.. To Phil: Once again, thankyou very much for everything you have done, get_iplayer will be sorely missed, but i fully understand and respect your reasoning for making this decision. I’m very sad about this turn of events. Thanks so much for the software, it has been of great use to me, allowing me to watch content in a convenient way. I’m sorry the stance BBC has driven you to this action. I am a great admirer of the work of the BBC and feel it is gives good value for my license fee, at least until now.

I very much resent the implication of the BBC that I am a thief simply because I use open source software. I do not keep the content past its limit and I do not redistribute it. I simply watch it (which is presumably why they made it available in the first place?).

We are now left with their Air / Flash web app (which is preventativly CPU intensive on many systems and relies on the propriatary and badly maintained Adobe flash player.

I currently do not own a television, but paid the licence fee since I felt a duty to support the production of content I enjoyed so much. I shall not be renewing my licence if the BBCs attitude towards accessibility and open source continues.

To everyone: Let the BBC know what you think, write to them, complete the consultation linked previously, write to your MP, comment on relevant BBC website articles, phone in to your local radio / newspaper, etc..

To Phil: Once again, thankyou very much for everything you have done, get_iplayer will be sorely missed, but i fully understand and respect your reasoning for making this decision.

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by Colin http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21117 Colin Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:25:39 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21117 thanks Phil for all your efforts. Craven stupidity by the BBC, combined with axing 6Music the seem out to get me at present! thanks Phil for all your efforts. Craven stupidity by the BBC, combined with axing 6Music the seem out to get me at present!

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by JohnC http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21115 JohnC Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:30:10 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21115 Dear Phil, What can I say! Devastated! Gobsmacked! Stopping development of Get_iPlayer reminds me of grounding Concorde. Your tool is currently streets ahead of what the BBC provides. I think open source software has served an extremely useful function in accelerating the development of iPlayer. They are now talking about 'prebooking' and 'season tickets', tools that Get_iPlayer already has. Just as the downloaders have forced the music industry into retreat over DRM, I think broadcasters will eventually come to the same inevitable conclusion about it. People just want media in a simple, convenient, downloadable format. For example, I love listening to radio programmes in the car on the mp3 player. Sadly, stopping Get_iPlayer will just slow that process down. Whilst I respect your decision and appreciate all the hard work that you've put into it, I urge you to think carefully about the message your decision sends to the BBC and Adobe. Do you really want to encourage DRM and closed-source solutions? Do you prefer Linux or Windows? Given your URL, I think I know the answer to that one. All the Best, whatever you decide. Dear Phil,
What can I say! Devastated! Gobsmacked! Stopping development of Get_iPlayer reminds me of grounding Concorde. Your tool is currently streets ahead of what the BBC provides. I think open source software has served an extremely useful function in accelerating the development of iPlayer. They are now talking about ‘prebooking’ and ’season tickets’, tools that Get_iPlayer already has. Just as the downloaders have forced the music industry into retreat over DRM, I think broadcasters will eventually come to the same inevitable conclusion about it. People just want media in a simple, convenient, downloadable format. For example, I love listening to radio programmes in the car on the mp3 player. Sadly, stopping Get_iPlayer will just slow that process down. Whilst I respect your decision and appreciate all the hard work that you’ve put into it, I urge you to think carefully about the message your decision sends to the BBC and Adobe. Do you really want to encourage DRM and closed-source solutions? Do you prefer Linux or Windows? Given your URL, I think I know the answer to that one. All the Best, whatever you decide.

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by linuxcentre http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21097 linuxcentre Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:26:13 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21097 See this little mash-up I threw together for you: http://linuxcentre.net/projects/iplayer-search It's just a drill-down search page for iPlayer and podcasts... See this little mash-up I threw together for you: http://linuxcentre.net/projects/iplayer-search
It’s just a drill-down search page for iPlayer and podcasts…

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by Midarezaki http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21093 Midarezaki Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:39:51 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21093 I didn't mean to imply the breakage was in get_iplayer, just that I needed to adjust a couple of things (and switch to the latest rtmpdump) to get things working. Unfortunately my non-existent Perl isn't up to the job of automating the fix to follow any future changes :( I didn’t mean to imply the breakage was in get_iplayer, just that I needed to adjust a couple of things (and switch to the latest rtmpdump) to get things working. Unfortunately my non-existent Perl isn’t up to the job of automating the fix to follow any future changes :(

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by linuxcentre http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21092 linuxcentre Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:35:31 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21092 Thanks. BTW: It wasn't broken AFAIK. Thanks. BTW: It wasn’t broken AFAIK.

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by Midarezaki http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21089 Midarezaki Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:56:27 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21089 Thank you for all your hard work on get_iplayer. It's much appreciated. (Not willing to admit defeat, I managed to get it working again but it's probably rather fragile, particularly because my Perl is non-existent.) Thank you for all your hard work on get_iplayer. It’s much appreciated.

(Not willing to admit defeat, I managed to get it working again but it’s probably rather fragile, particularly because my Perl is non-existent.)

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by benjymous http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21085 benjymous Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:42:47 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21085 How depressing. I only started using get_iplayer because the BBC's own Adobe Air based "iplayer desktop" software ran so uselessly on my netbook - watching a video would consume 100% of the CPU time, and still stutter horribly. Movies downloaded with get_iplayer play perfectly in VLC and use barely any CPU time at all. I'd be happy to use their official software if they'd make it actually work! How depressing. I only started using get_iplayer because the BBC’s own Adobe Air based “iplayer desktop” software ran so uselessly on my netbook - watching a video would consume 100% of the CPU time, and still stutter horribly. Movies downloaded with get_iplayer play perfectly in VLC and use barely any CPU time at all. I’d be happy to use their official software if they’d make it actually work!

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by G. Din http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21080 G. Din Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:51:13 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21080 Oh no!!!! I just came here to mention a little bug/feature, and I found the party is almost over :(( Thanks for all your excellent hard work and for providing me with an iPlayer solution that actually worked on Slackware. You have earned much good karma, can't say the same for the Beeb in this matter, grrrhhhhh. Again, thanks! Oh no!!!!
I just came here to mention a little bug/feature, and I found the party is almost over :((
Thanks for all your excellent hard work and for providing me with an iPlayer solution that actually worked on Slackware.
You have earned much good karma, can’t say the same for the Beeb in this matter, grrrhhhhh.
Again, thanks!

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