Comments for Linuxcentre http://linuxcentre.net   Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:58:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 Comment on iPlayer Search Help by Ron http://linuxcentre.net/projects/iplayer-search#comment-21498 Ron Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:28:06 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?page_id=935#comment-21498 This is a handy application. Thanks. All that's missing is 'right-click download with get_iplayer'. I wish. ;-) This is a handy application. Thanks.
All that’s missing is ‘right-click download with get_iplayer’.
I wish. ;-)

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by Andy http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21493 Andy Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:09:51 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21493 Thank you so much for all your dedicated work on get_iplayer. It's allowed me to time-shift programmes easily and watch/listen on devices not supported by the BBC, and truly enriched my experience of their output. I totally understand your reasons for ceasing development, given the BBC's recent statements. Best of luck with your future projects, Andy Thank you so much for all your dedicated work on get_iplayer. It’s allowed me to time-shift programmes easily and watch/listen on devices not supported by the BBC, and truly enriched my experience of their output. I totally understand your reasons for ceasing development, given the BBC’s recent statements.

Best of luck with your future projects,

Andy

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by Paul Jakma http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21488 Paul Jakma Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:00:17 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21488 Perhaps they're not being spineless, perhaps they're deliberately giving only a small part of the picture so as to invite people to a conclusion that is not actually true. E.g. at least one of the rights holders is BBC Worldwide, other rights holders will also be owned or part-owned by BBC (e.g. Top Gear production company). See my other post below for link and quote. So when the BBC says its hands are tied by rights holders, it's omitting to say "which happens to be us, in a lot of cases". Sneaky, but technically not outright lying. Note that the BBC apparently is required by its rules to have a controlling financial interest in any company if that company is to be allowed to co-brand with the BBC. Alex Cockell and myself have been dumpster diving through the PDFs of Beeb rules on this on the Ian Hunter blog you linked to. You have to go way down to about comment #200. E.g. it seems the BBC Trust licence for BBC Online requires access to "a wide range of IP enabled devices", and there's lots of other interesting things there. We really all need to raise these issues with the BBC Trust. See below for another post of mine on that. Thanks for all your good work on this btw! Though, I wish you'd reconsider ;) Perhaps they’re not being spineless, perhaps they’re deliberately giving only a small part of the picture so as to invite people to a conclusion that is not actually true.

E.g. at least one of the rights holders is BBC Worldwide, other rights holders will also be owned or part-owned by BBC (e.g. Top Gear production company). See my other post below for link and quote. So when the BBC says its hands are tied by rights holders, it’s omitting to say “which happens to be us, in a lot of cases”. Sneaky, but technically not outright lying.

Note that the BBC apparently is required by its rules to have a controlling financial interest in any company if that company is to be allowed to co-brand with the BBC.

Alex Cockell and myself have been dumpster diving through the PDFs of Beeb rules on this on the Ian Hunter blog you linked to. You have to go way down to about comment #200.

E.g. it seems the BBC Trust licence for BBC Online requires access to “a wide range of IP enabled devices”, and there’s lots of other interesting things there.

We really all need to raise these issues with the BBC Trust. See below for another post of mine on that.

Thanks for all your good work on this btw! Though, I wish you’d reconsider ;)

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by Paul Jakma http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21487 Paul Jakma Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:45:23 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21487 <i>To everyone: Let the BBC know what you think, write to them, complete the consultation linked previously, write to your MP, comment on relevant BBC website articles, phone in to your local radio / newspaper, etc..</i> BBC Trust is running a <a href="https://consultations.external.bbc.co.uk/departments/bbc/bbc-strategy-review/consultation/consult_view" rel="nofollow">consultation on the BBC strategic review</a>. One of the key questions is regarding platform neutrality. It is very important that people fill in that survey and let the Trust know how important open ly specified access is. In particular the following is important for platform neutrality: - BBC Ondemand should *not* be built on proprietary, single-vendor technologies, such as Adobe Flash. - BBC Ondemand should be built on multi-vendor, open, non-discriminatory standards, such as HTML5 video. - The BBC should *not* be in the business of dictating which ondemand client implementations may access iPlayer and which may not. These things are important both for free software, but also more generally for a healthy market. It is not in the public interest for the BBC to become the king-maker of client device implementations. Please take the time to let the Trust know your views on platform neutrality and how the current situation is bad for the greater public interest. To everyone: Let the BBC know what you think, write to them, complete the consultation linked previously, write to your MP, comment on relevant BBC website articles, phone in to your local radio / newspaper, etc..

BBC Trust is running a consultation on the BBC strategic review. One of the key questions is regarding platform neutrality. It is very important that people fill in that survey and let the Trust know how important open ly specified access is.

In particular the following is important for platform neutrality:

- BBC Ondemand should *not* be built on proprietary, single-vendor technologies, such as Adobe Flash.

- BBC Ondemand should be built on multi-vendor, open, non-discriminatory standards, such as HTML5 video.

- The BBC should *not* be in the business of dictating which ondemand client implementations may access iPlayer and which may not.

These things are important both for free software, but also more generally for a healthy market. It is not in the public interest for the BBC to become the king-maker of client device implementations.

Please take the time to let the Trust know your views on platform neutrality and how the current situation is bad for the greater public interest.

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by Paul Jakma http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21485 Paul Jakma Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:34:45 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21485 Bear in mind that in many cases the rights holders and programme makers are companies the BBC owns or has a significant in. Basically, when the BBC says it's forced to do these things because other rights holders, it's being "forced" by companies like BBC Worldwide... If you don't believe me, <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/12/introducing_iplayer_deskto.html" rel="nofollow">believe the BBC</a> - note the paragraph "<i>Our rights holders require ... For example BBC Worldwide..</i>". Bear in mind that in many cases the rights holders and programme makers are companies the BBC owns or has a significant in.

Basically, when the BBC says it’s forced to do these things because other rights holders, it’s being “forced” by companies like BBC Worldwide… If you don’t believe me, believe the BBC - note the paragraph “Our rights holders require … For example BBC Worldwide..“.

]]> Comment on Poll of get_iplayer Usage by James R http://linuxcentre.net/poll-of-get_iplayer-usage#comment-21411 James R Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:02:32 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=902#comment-21411 Working for a college, instead of having to record programmes on video tape, I can use get_iplayer to download MP4 streams, & put these on USB stick to play back on projectors/whiteboards. Working for a college, instead of having to record programmes on video tape, I can use get_iplayer to download MP4 streams, & put these on USB stick to play back on projectors/whiteboards.

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by Bob http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21393 Bob Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:10:06 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21393 Gutted. Neither of my machines are capable of playing the HD flash streams without tearing and other periodic corruption. I also sometimes hit 'buffering' issues. get_iplayer is brilliant because if I use it to download the HD version of a programme both my machines can play back the resulting .mp4 file perfectly. Thank you for you efforts. Gutted.

Neither of my machines are capable of playing the HD flash streams without tearing and other periodic corruption. I also sometimes hit ‘buffering’ issues. get_iplayer is brilliant because if I use it to download the HD version of a programme both my machines can play back the resulting .mp4 file perfectly.

Thank you for you efforts.

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by getOpenID http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21390 getOpenID Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:53:22 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21390 Sorry to hear this go. Lets hope they'll think straight soon. Sorry to hear this go. Lets hope they’ll think straight soon.

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by Steve Thompson http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21314 Steve Thompson Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:46:06 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21314 Thanks for all your hard work Phil, my listening wont be the same without your great little program! Steve Thanks for all your hard work Phil, my listening wont be the same without your great little program!
Steve

]]> Comment on get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source by getOpenID http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source#comment-21296 getOpenID Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:30:01 +0000 http://linuxcentre.net/?p=914#comment-21296 It has been a true honour using get_iPlayer and I salute it with the up most thanks. Hoping that it will return one day and ignite the joy of catch up TV that we will miss in its wake! Many Thanks getOpenID It has been a true honour using get_iPlayer and I salute it with the up most thanks. Hoping that it will return one day and ignite the joy of catch up TV that we will miss in its wake!

Many Thanks

getOpenID

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